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April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Insurance CEO’s are …
Insurance CEO’s are heartless. They rescind the policy after a person is in the recovery room. This bad news harms the patient who in no way can fight these monsters.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
because everyone …
because everyone wants to compete to give insurance to someone with a serious medical condition.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
By the way, of …
By the way, of course insurance companies have their own interests in mind when they start a company. But when there is enough competition there is no incentive to cheat people out of their insurance, for people will go to another company that is fair. You will be out of business in no time if you cheat people. But there must be competition on the market, and that’s exactly what the government has destroyed.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
How ridiculous, …
How ridiculous, that is not a result of the free market. This is ‘simple’ breach of contract. Insurance companies that have these kind of practices should be punished by a court, and made to pay heavy fines. That is part of the free market. Fraud and breach of contract is not part of the free market.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
lol ironically …
lol ironically enough, the taxes is offset by the cheaper healthcare…people pay ridiculous premiums in america….so basically they are complaining about a net change of
-A net savings of money (premiums will plummet and offset taxes as evident by the VAST majority of 1st world nations)
-reliable and avaliable healthcare
how retarded do you have to resist that?……
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
saving lives isn’t …
saving lives isn’t a good enough reason? well, it appears that u are a lot closer to fascism than u think. in no other country to people complain about inavsion of freedoms or the implementation of fascism because they have a some form of gov’t run health care.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
You are saying that …
You are saying that higher taxes to pay for clearly neccessary health care reform is an invasion of ur freedom?! You value your taxes above the lives of the uninsured?
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
But conservatism is …
But conservatism is an aunthoritarian ideology. But how can u say that socialism is close to fascism!? The only similarity is that like extreme socialists, fascists want everything gov’t run, but for the sake of propaganda, whereas socialists want it for the sake o helping poor people. and why are you still relating this to freedom. Don’t you have the freedom to live your life , in which you have a right to get treated if u are sick!
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
franksnow79,
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franksnow79,
yeah, nazism, fascism – basically the same thing. anyway thats not the debate. firstly, socialism and communism are 2 different things. moderate socilaism is much more different to communism than you think and is in place to a certain extent in every country in the world. do u know that hitler banned socialists and communists from his meetings?! ignorant shit. some people get carried away with the authoritarian aspect of communism and then it can be dangerous
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
eeww libertarianism …
eeww libertarianism icky!!
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
First up, it’s not …
First up, it’s not co-operation if it is coerced. I can empathize with the ideal of a good society and looking out for one another, in the specific, looking out for those that you care about and have an association with, those that have earned and deserve it through their conduct and actions. But don’t speak to me of society in the abstract. Society has done nothing for me, and has tried to hold me back and down at every turn.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
On the contrary, …
On the contrary, sir, I can read a demographics chart as well as anybody, and better than most sociologists, whose biggest claim to math is that they took ‘stat’. And my reasoning is very sound. As far back as Pericles’ Athens, it has been known that wealthy democracies do not last long after the people discover they can vote themselves largess from the public trust. Writers from Touqueville to Burke to Burnham have noted and expounded on the subject very well.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
You, sir, are …
You, sir, are talking out your ass. You’re not stating facts–you’re on a soapbox, flinging your biased opinions, opinions that imply a certain sense of xenophobia and aren’t open to reason or backed up by sound logic.
Those countries I listed all have a public health care option, but their systems are all fairly different, set up to fit each country’s individual needs. To say they face financial collapse is absurd. Somehow, I doubt Japan, Germany, and the UK will fall before the US does.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Pardon me, I meant …
Pardon me, I meant their profits have risen 400% since 2001.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
The costs have …
The costs have risen 400% since 2001. The majority of the country can’t afford it, and at least 70% want a reform and a public option. And finally, having a public option doesn’t mean the private one will become unavailable–that’s just stupid. The public option just provides competition, which the insurance companies sorely need unless we want them to keep expanding their profits by denying coverage for imaginary reasons.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
The US may be …
The US may be falling apart, but the lack of universal medical isn’t the reason. As stated previously, so far the US has avoided the trap of it. All the countries you name, and imply, are looking at having to seriously curtail social services in the next decade or two because they have voted themselves overly generous benefits along with their costs, which are unsustainable. They face financial collapse, and the end of Rennaisance civilization in Europe, if current trends continue.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
First up, the …
First up, the closest ideology to nazi-ism, as you term it, is facism; as the Nazis grew directly out of facism. And facism is closer to socialism/communism than anything esle. 2cd, Just because one says is will help people doesn’t justify impeding on another’s freedom. It does this because saying that one has a ‘right’ to medicine is also saying that another has an obligation to pay. Tell us what we get by paying for it instead of using government force. Lastly, no it’s not a good enough reason
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
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6) Our …
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6) Our economy is fine, we were hurt by the world recession like everyone, but we’ve recovered quite well.
7) NO ONE here goes without coverage, our dies needlessly because of “pre existing conditions” or being denied coverage for any reason.
Frank, I understand the mind set of being private and feeling like you shouldn’t have to pay for anyone else. But, keep in mind, someone else would be paying for you. It’s cooperation, and what a real good society does. Look out for others.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Hey Frank, I live …
Hey Frank, I live in Canada, where we have socialized medicine. I have a couple things to say
1) I have a card where any time, ANY time I need to see a doctor, I don’t need to fill out any forms, I just go see a doctor
2) At no point has the government or a “beurocrat”, which is a word I’ve heard from you guys, come between me and my healthcare
3) My step father got knee surgery that would’ve cost over 50,000 dollars in the states, he got it for free here
4) The wait times aren’t that bad
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Nearly all of the …
Nearly all of the world’s developed countries have a public health care system, including but not limited to: the UK, Germany, Japan, France, Canada, the Netherlands…the list goes on and on. Places like Australia and New Zealand have private health care mixed with the public, so you can choose which you want. The US is the only industrialized country without a public system in place, and it’s showing. Our country is falling apart, but you’re blind to what’s right in front of your face.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
well franksnow79, …
well franksnow79, it would save lives cos poor people and those who will be denied care can get it. is that not a good enough reason? why do u associate health care with freedom, health care is about helping sick people, not profit, but any mention of gov’t intervention and u conservatives go NAZI NAZI, when actually it’s done for the sake of helping people, not propaganda. and actually conservatism is closer to nazism than any other ideology so hah!
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
GO OBAMA GO!
GO OBAMA GO!
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Torte reform first! …
Torte reform first! The victims in our system are the healthcare providers. We send our children to Law school instead of Med school. What other profession can they become so rich so fast for so little work? This is the only thing that will increase the quality and availability of health services. First thing to do is reduce punitive damages and redirect where they go. Right now punitive damages go to the lawyer and injured party who havent earned it. Give this money to the uninsured.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Frist up, everyone …
Frist up, everyone isn’t dying. You make it sound as if the plague is spreading across the land. 2cd, One bankruptcy of a person/household/family is better that a national bankruptcy. Going bankrupt as an individual is hardly the end of everything, it’s simply staring from scratch. The bankruptcy of the US would be a catastrophe of historical proportion.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
It is for a similar …
It is for a similar reason that I am NOT in favour of tort reform. If a patient is damaged or suffers loss, why should congress determine that that patient’s award should be limited to a pre-dertimed amount. Thatis NOT right !!!!!!!!!!! I cannot for the life of me understand how Americans can accept tort reform, but NOT a public option.